Are there any tainos left: Researchers have produced the first clear genetic evidence that the indigenous people whom Columbus first encountered in the New World still have living descendants today — ScienceDaily
Researchers have produced the first clear genetic evidence that the indigenous people whom Columbus first encountered in the New World still have living descendants today — ScienceDaily
A thousand-year-old tooth has provided genetic evidence that the so-called “Taíno,” the first indigenous Americans to feel the full impact of European colonisation after Columbus arrived in the New World, still have living descendants in the Caribbean today.
Researchers were able to use the tooth of a woman found in a cave on the island of Eleuthera in the Bahamas to sequence the first complete ancient human genome from the Caribbean. The woman lived at some point between the 8th and 10th centuries, at least 500 years before Columbus made landfall in the Bahamas.
The results provide unprecedented insights into the genetic makeup of the Taíno — a label commonly used to describe the indigenous people of that region. This includes the first clear evidence that there has been some degree of continuity between the indigenous peoples of the Caribbean and contemporary communities living in the region today.
Such a link had previously been suggested by other studies based on modern DNA. None of these, however, was able to draw on an ancient genome. The new research finally provides concrete proof that indigenous ancestry in the region has survived to the present day.
Comparing the ancient Bahamian genome to those of contemporary Puerto Ricans, the researchers found that they were more closely related to the ancient Taíno than any other indigenous group in the Americas. However, they argue that this characteristic is unlikely to be exclusive to Puerto Ricans alone and are convinced that future studies will reveal similar genetic legacies in other Caribbean communities.
The findings are likely to be especially significant for people in the Caribbean and elsewhere who have long claimed indigenous Taíno heritage, despite some historical narratives that inaccurately brand them “extinct.” Such misrepresentations have been heavily criticised by historians and archaeologists, as well as by descendant communities themselves, but until now they lacked clear genetic evidence to support their case.
The study was carried out by an international team of researchers led by Dr Hannes Schroeder and Professor Eske Willerslev within the framework of the ERC Synergy project NEXUS1492. The findings are published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).
Lead author Schroeder, from the University of Copenhagen who carried out the research as part of the NEXUS1492 project, said: “It’s a fascinating finding. Many history books will tell you that the indigenous population of the Caribbean was all but wiped out, but people who self-identify as Taíno have always argued for continuity. Now we know they were right all along: there has been some form of genetic continuity in the Caribbean.”
Willerslev, who has dual posts at St John’s College, University of Cambridge, and the University of Copenhagen, said: “It has always been clear that people in the Caribbean have Native American ancestry, but because the region has such a complex history of migration, it was difficult to prove whether this was specifically indigenous to the Caribbean, until now.
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The researchers were also able to trace the genetic origins of the indigenous Caribbean islanders, showing that they were most closely related to Arawakan-speaking groups who live in parts of northern South America today. This suggests that the origins of at least some the people who migrated to the Caribbean can be traced back to the Amazon and Orinoco Basins, where the Arawakan languages developed.
The Caribbean was one of the last parts of the Americas to be populated by humans starting around 8,000 years ago. By the time of European colonization, the islands were a complex patchwork of different societies and cultures. The “Taíno” culture was dominant in the Greater, and parts of the Lesser Antilles, as well as the Bahamas, where the people were known as Lucayans.
To trace the genetic origins of the Lucayans the researchers compared the ancient Bahamian genome with previously published genome-wide datasets for over 40 present-day indigenous groups from the Americas.
In addition, they looked for traces of indigenous Caribbean ancestry in present-day populations by comparing the ancient genome with those of 104 contemporary Puerto Ricans included in the 1000 Genomes Project. The 10-15% of Native American ancestry in this group was shown to be closely related to the ancient Bahamian genome.
Jorge Estevez, a Taíno descendant who works at the National Museum of the American Indian in New York and assisted the project team, said that as a boy growing up in the United States, he was told stories about his Taíno ancestors at home, but at school was taught that the same ancestors had died out. “I wish my grandmother were alive today so that I could confirm to her what she already knew,” he added. “It shows that the true story is one of assimilation, certainly, but not total extinction. I am genuinely grateful to the researchers. Although this may have been a matter of scientific inquiry for them, to us, the descendants, it is truly liberating and uplifting.
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Although indigenous Caribbean communities were island-based, the researchers found very little genomic evidence of isolation or inbreeding in the ancient genome. This reinforces earlier genetic research led by Willerslev, which suggests that early human communities developed surprisingly extensive social networks, long before the term had digital connotations. It also echoes ongoing work by researchers at the Faculty of Archaeology in Leiden and others indicating the connectedness of indigenous Caribbean communities.
Professor Corinne Hofman from Leiden University and PI of the NEXUS1492 project, said: “Archaeological evidence has always suggested that large numbers of people who settled the Caribbean originated in South America, and that they maintained social networks that extended far beyond the local scale. Historically, it has been difficult to back this up with ancient DNA because of poor preservation, but this study demonstrates that it is possible to obtain ancient genomes from the Caribbean and that opens up fascinating new possibilities for research.
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Taino Indians Are Alive and Well and Living In Puerto Rico … At Least Their Descendants … DNA Says
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SAN JUAN — They were called the Taíno, and the Europeans who colonized their land took almost everything away from them.
A half-century after Christopher Columbus set foot upon the New World, these decimated natives of the Caribbean – who once numbered somewhere in the hundreds of thousands – had declined to fewer than 500, ravaged by disease, enslavement, and worse.
In fact, many thought the indigenous Taíno long ago became extinct – a dramatic casualty of historical circumstance – but for the first time, new DNA evidence reveals their bloodline yet lives.
“It’s a fascinating finding,” says genetic archaeologist Hannes Schroeder from the University of Copenhagen in Denmark.
“Many history books will tell you that the indigenous population of the Caribbean was all but wiped out, but people who self-identify as Taíno have always argued for continuity,” says Schroeder.
“Now we know they were right all along: there has been some form of genetic continuity in the Caribbean.”
To show the Taíno had a future, Schroeder and fellow researchers had to dig deep into the past – going all the way back to a time a half-millennia or more before Columbus made his fateful landing.
Entrance of Preacher’s Cave (Photo by: Jane Day)
Buried in a giant cavern called Preacher’s Cave on the Bahamian island of Eleuthera, researchers had previously discovered burial sites of ancient Lucayans– a branch of the Taíno who were the native inhabitants of the Bahamas.
One of the skeletons found there belonged to a woman who lived at some point between the 8th and 10th centuries, and her preserved tooth held onto enough intact DNA to enable the team to sequence the first complete ancient human genome from the Caribbean.
That analysis showed the woman is genetically most closely related to present-day Arawakan speakers in tribes from northern South America – but it also showed something else.
When they compared the ancient genome with those of today’s inhabitants of the Caribbean islands, they found contemporary Puerto Ricans are more closely related to the long-thought “extinct” natives than any other indigenous group in the Americas.
“We find that the native component in present-day Puerto Rican genomes is closely related to the ancient Taíno,” the researchers write, “demonstrating an element of continuity between pre-contact populations and present-day Latino populations in the Caribbean despite the disruptive effects of European colonisation.”
The team is confident future studies drawing upon more genetic evidence will show that other indigenous Caribbean bloodlines have survived too – finally turning over the page on a dark mistake perpetuated by historians who assumed the native peoples were wiped out forever.
“I wish my grandmother were alive today so that I could confirm to her what she already knew,” says Taíno descendant Jorge Estevez from the National Museum of the American Indian in New York, who assisted the team in their research.
“It shows that the true story is one of assimilation, certainly, but not total extinction. I am genuinely grateful to the researchers. Although this may have been a matter of scientific inquiry for them, to us, the descendants, it is truly liberating and uplifting.”
In addition to rewriting the history books, the discoveries will help fill in the gaps for thousands of people living today across the Caribbean, whose precious family histories just became vindicated.
“It’s almost like the ancient Taíno individual they’re looking at is the cousin of the ancestors of people from Puerto Rico,” geneticist Maria Nieves-Colón, who wasn’t involved in the study but grew up in Puerto Rico, told Science.
“You know what? These people didn’t disappear.
In fact, they’re still here. They’re in us.”
The findings are reported in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/02/natives-of-the-caribbean-wiped-out-during-colonization-left-dna-behind/
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/02/taino-caribbean-indigenous-groups-ancient-dna-spd/
http://bigthink.com/robby-berman/caribbean-tribe-believed-extinct-is-right-here-among-us
FOSSIL RECORD: Mandible from Preacher’s Cave (Jane Day)
what the Avengers will do next – Movies and series on DTF
Guessing on colored stones and fan theories.
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Infinity War ends in the most heartbreaking way. Thanos wins a crushing victory over the Avengers and with one snap of his fingers destroys half of the living beings in the universe.
Not only people crumble to ashes, but also superheroes – Doctor Strange, Spider-Man, the remaining Guardians of the Galaxy (except for the raccoon), Black Panther, Winter Soldier and Scarlet Witch.
However, even the most naive viewers understand that all these heroes have not disappeared forever. If only because “Doctor Strange 2”, “Guardians of the Galaxy 3” and the sequel “Homecoming” is a long-ago deal.
Does this mean that the remaining Avengers must find a way to reverse what they’ve done? But how do they achieve this?
Unfortunately, we won’t know about it until a year later. Until the release of Avengers 4, Marvel will not release any films set after Infinity War.
The only thing we can say with almost complete certainty is that Doctor Strange prevented Thanos from killing Iron Man and sacrificed himself, because this development of events is the very unique chance to win that he saw when he calculated 14 million different scenarios future.
Accordingly, we can assume that Tony Stark is one of the keys to saving the world. However, not only him: the very confidence of Thanos that everything is over is important.
Let’s not forget about the three heroes that were not in the “War of Infinity” – Hawkeye, Ant-Man and Captain Marvel.
And now let’s look at the “tails” that the film of the Russo brothers left us and tell a little fortune on the coffee grounds about how they can affect the further development of the plot.
Only old men go to battle
Many viewers pay attention to those characters that Thanos “killed”, but few think about who remained. By a strange coincidence, the villainous punishment did not touch the classic cast of the first Avengers in 2012.
It would be strange if Marvel didn’t use this fact in their Avengers 4 promotional campaign. Is there a more elegant way to end an era than by sending classic heroes to the last stand? Moreover, it is these actors whose contracts are coming to an end, and Chris Evans even announced that he would say goodbye to the MCU in 2019.
Of course, there will be other characters in Avengers 4 like Rocket and Ant-Man, but the original Avengers may well get some special task or at least come together for one battle.
All these characters are currently alive
“Forsaken”
The ending of the “War of Infinity” is very similar to the plot of the famous TV series Leftovers – there, too, a part of humanity disappears from the Earth without a trace. Only not 50%, but 2%.
Marvel has every chance to use tricks from the series to add drama to Avengers 4. No wonder two characters with families remained behind the scenes in Infinity War – Ant-Man and Hawkeye.
Obviously, Ant-Man and the Wasp takes place before Thanos’ attack, so Scott Lang may face the bitterness of loss either in the finale or in the post-credits scene of his solo album.
The same applies to Hawkeye: even in “Confrontation” the writers did not miss the opportunity to remind the audience about his family. Does this mean that we were being prepared for the future disappearance of Clint Barton’s children and wife?
Time rewind
The most obvious way to save Spider-Man and the other heroes who died in Infinity War is to rewind time throughout the universe.
To do this, the Avengers will have to find Thanos and take the Infinity Stones from him. This will be a little easier, as the snap at the end of Infinity War damaged the villain’s gauntlet, and the Avengers will certainly go into battle already with reinforcements in the form of Captain Marvel.
The broken glove itself creates additional opportunities for the development of the plot. Probably, the Avengers will even have to forge a new one – after all, in the space forge, which Thor previously used, there is everything necessary for this. Thanos might try the same.
There is only one serious flaw in this plan – the audience will be bored watching something like this, and the time rewind trick itself will completely devalue the previous film. It is unlikely that the Russo brothers went in such a simple way. Moreover, the writers of Avengers 4 are already openly saying that the picture will be as dark as Infinity War. No miraculous return of all the characters, including Loki, is foreseen.
However, the authors can create interesting restrictions for the heroes – for example, give the opportunity to rewind time only up to a certain point and finally destroy the glove.
There is another option: after the rewind, the Avengers may have to fight Thanos again – but on their own terms.
Return of Souls
At the end of Infinity War, Thanos doesn’t actually kill anyone, but simply imprisons the souls of half the inhabitants of the universe inside the Soul Stone: they find themselves in a parallel world called Soulworld or Soul World.
In this case, “Avengers 4” can go through several interesting scenarios at once.
First: The old line-up of the Avengers, led by Captain Marvel, takes the gauntlet from Thanos and saves everyone imprisoned in the Soul Stone, but the device is destroyed for some reason. This means the end for Loki and other heroes whom the villain killed with his own hand. In this scenario, in the second film, the final death can await any of the surviving Avengers – even Captain America and Iron Man.
The second option: the entire Marvel universe can temporarily move to the Soul World, where there is no longer Iron Man, Captain America and Thor, but there are all new characters – from Spider-Man to Doctor Strange. However, the studio is unlikely to have the courage to do something like this, so the maximum you should count on is a separate storyline with the “dead” looking for a way out of a parallel world.
Third option: during the final battle in Infinity War, the writers paid too much attention to the storyline with Shuri and her attempts to extract the Mind Stone from Vision. Perhaps in Avengers 4, the girl will be able to use the knowledge gained to return those who were taken by Thanos.
The Soul World, judging by the comics, may well be one of the settings for Avengers 4
Nebula
In Infinity War, Nebula acts pretty stupid, blindly following her emotions, but that doesn’t mean she’s suddenly weak. In passing, we are told that behind the scenes, a robotic girl almost killed Thanos.
The villain seems to have let his guard down after the success of his venture, so Nebula may well finish what she started and take possession of the Infinity Gauntlet. This means that the Avengers may have to fight her instead of her father.
This could be a pretty interesting development, but Marvel is unlikely to go for something like that. The studio wouldn’t dedicate an entire movie to Thanos just to switch from one villain to another at the last moment – and even less interesting one.
Ant-Man and the Wasp
Ant-Man and the Wasp is the first Marvel movie to be released since Infinity War. Judging by the trailers, his events take place before the invasion of Thanos, but this does not mean that the studio has suddenly removed such an important hero from the brackets.
Hank Pym’s technology may well be one of the ways to defeat the villain.
Moreover, the sequel will be devoted to the disclosure of the concept of Quantum Space – the very one where Ant-Man almost got lost while saving his daughter.
According to the plot of the first film, at the interatomic level, the concepts of time and space cease to operate, so that it can be the key to victory.
However, Quantum space can become the key not only to the control of space and time, but also to parallel worlds, about which the studio can even make separate films.
BARF (aka SIDS)
At the beginning of “Confrontation” Tony Stark introduces students to a system called BARF (Binary Augmented Retro Framing). It allows you to turn any memory into an interactive scene.
Marvel fans would have forgotten about BARF if this acronym hadn’t been spotted on the set of Avengers 4. Based on the available footage, Tony Stark and Ant-Man (pictured wearing a new suit) are using this system to refresh their memories of the battle in New York, where they also meet Captain America – in old clothes and without a beard.
But why would they need it? It can be assumed that in order to defeat Thanos, Stark will have to study all the previous skirmishes of the Avengers with him – including indirect ones.
However, the BARF theory raises many more questions than it answers. Say, if Captain America on the court is a memory, then why does he have the exact same bracelet on his arm as the rest of the heroes? And why is Tony’s hair lighter than in Infinity War?
Avengers Forever
Even before the premiere of Infinity War, Marvel CEO Kevin Feige said that the real name of Avengers 4 would be announced quite late, because it itself is a spoiler.
One such option is Avengers Forever. If the film is really called that, then the studio will probably borrow a few tricks from the comic book series of the same name that came out in the nineties.
If events develop according to such a scenario, then the final battle with Thanos may drag on not in time, but in time. In this series of comics, the Avengers team consists of heroes not only from different races and civilizations, but also from different times. This means that Iron Man may very well call on Captain America from 2012 to help him, which at the same time explains the strange footage from the filming (but does not explain where the bearded Steve Rogers went).
However, such a scenario is still unlikely. There are not enough heroes in the MCU universe for him, and it’s hard to imagine what kind of mess Avengers 4 will turn into if the pursuit of Thanos takes place in different eras.
There is a popular theory that the next film will continue the retelling of the Infinity Gauntlet comic, where the Avengers, after being defeated, will have to fly around the entire universe in order to assemble a new team capable of defeating Thanos. Tony Stark, whose life was saved by Doctor Strange, could just become their leader.
But then Marvel will have its own analogue of the “Justice League” with a bunch of new characters, and this is clearly not a good idea. In addition, information about the casting of additional actors has not yet hit the network, so it is unlikely that Marvel will suddenly introduce unknown characters like Adam Warlock, who was briefly teased at the end of the second Guardians of the Galaxy.
Article written using Collider, The Hollywood Reporter, Screen Rant, Digital Spy, IndieWire and Inverse.
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Infinity War issues. Part 2. Thanos – Offtopic on DTF
Thanos, disabled people, old memes, minuses and of course spoilers.
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This is the second post about Infinity War issues that even as a fan I can’t close my eyes to. The first part was about the issue of portraying death in comic and non-comic media and why the new Marvel Studios movie is raising it again.
This time we’ll talk about the problems around the central character of the film – Thanos.
Thanos’ motives. They are just stupid.
Thanos collects the Infinity Stones to cut the population in half. In his opinion, this should solve the problem of overpopulation and lack of resources.
But the mechanisms of self-regulation already exist in nature. For example, the demographic transition model, which shows that with a decrease in mortality, the birth rate also decreases.
Thanos’ Malthusianism is an 18th century theory and has long been considered incorrect. For example, political scientist Ekaterina Shulman points out the irrelevance of this theory in the modern world.
The Stone Age did not end because the stones ran out…
one of the foreign colleagues in one of the Arab countries, the former minister of oil
Forbes journalist Jay-Vi Chamari also wrote about the fallacy of Thanos’ views.
As one of the readers of the DTF rightly noted, in no film before this we have never been shown at all that somewhere there is a lack of resources. On the contrary, we saw different civilizations in relative prosperity.
In addition, the Thanos method does not take into account species that are already at the stage of extinction. The reduction in the population will definitely not do them any good.
Yes, even if Thanos’ views were correct, it would only delay the problem, not solve it.
Because the population of the universe would sooner or later recover and the mass purge would have to be re-arranged.
Why not just create resources?
Judging by the article in TJournal, this question was asked not only by me, but also by other viewers. I am happy with this fact.
If a character complains throughout the movie that there are not enough resources in the universe, then having the ability to change reality at will, it is logical to assume that he will create additional resources, and not destroy half the population.
If the main villain of the Marvel Cinematic Universe can’t think of such a simple idea, then maybe Marvel should partner more with Jonathan Hickman ? It’s just that even minor villains thought of it before:
Reed Richards from a parallel universe rid his world of hunger. I, as a Ukrainian, express my respect, but Thanos “Stalin of Infinity” – no. Fantastic Four #571
Thanos’ use of the Infinity Stones is best commented on by only Thanos from the comics:
I used them as hammer when in fact they are surgeon’s scalpel.
What if the Infinity Stones can’t create resources?
But they can bear them. With their help, you can make deserts fertile again, and the oceans – purple, and stuff like that.
In fact, it is really possible to substantiate this move in some way. [more on this below]
But the film’s writers didn’t do that.
In the end, Thanos doesn’t even try use the glove differently.
Therefore, I do not understand at all people who after this say that Thanos came out “not flat” and “not evil, because he is evil.”
Quite the opposite: Thanos does evil because the writer needs a villain. In comparison, even the insipid Kaecilius from Doctor Strange did evil to defeat death. Although he was wrong, the very desire to conquer death is more understandable and obvious than the desire to arrange genocide.
Why Infinity War is not a Thanos movie
In a previous post, I complained that I had a hard time accepting the new Avengers as a complete movie because the Avengers (and Guardians of the Galaxy) line breaks off in the middle.
If we think of Infinity War as a story about Thanos, the problem will be the same, but on the other hand – we are not given the beginning of the character’s story.
6 years after Thanos appeared in the first Avengers » We still know very little about him. Just because Marvel decided to stuff the character’s backstory into a standalone book that hasn’t been released yet, not into the movie.
And very in vain. Because Marvel has deprived me, as a viewer, of the experience of empathy.
Thanos’ views would have remained archaic, but if there was a full-fledged plot act that would show how they appeared, the story would become integral.
But Thanos says that he used to have a civilization, but now he doesn’t!
Yes, but this is not a plot act. Ben Kenobi in “ A New Hope ” also says that he knew Luke’s father, but no need to explain that Obi-Wan and Anakin’s past adventure is not a plot act of the film, and Kenobi is not its central character.
The fact that some kind of tragedy happened on Titan tells us little, on the contrary, it raises more questions:
- How did it happen?
- Is it really a lack of resources and overpopulation, or is it just a consequence of some catastrophe?
- What if Thanos destroyed his civilization? He has similar skills.
- Why didn’t the birth rate simply decrease, as it is happening now in developed countries?
- And there was a lack of resources and the whole civilization died out, then how did Thanos survive?
- How did he leave the planet then? (yes, I know that Titan is a satellite)
- Why didn’t the others fly away?
- And someone else could fly away, then how did the lack of resources appear in the first place?
Infinity War doesn’t feel like a complete movie.
More like two unfinished stories molded into one:
But these plots complement each other and therefore this is a full-fledged film!
If you really think so, then I have prepared pictures to show you are wrong:
They should have taken the best of comics
I don’t want to reduce everything to the banal “k̶n̶i̶g̶a comic is better”, but Thanos’ motives are really more understandable there.
In them, Death gave Thanos the task of destroying half of life in the universe. He needs the Infinity Stones, supposedly to complete this assignment faster and more efficiently. But in fact, he wants to become worthy of the hand and heart of his Lady. [must remember to insert BDSM joke here]
Happy (no) married couple
At the end of his journey, Thanos becomes even more powerful than Death. And here, the whole tragedy of omnipotence manifests itself. He can make her love him , but this love will not be sincere.
Thanos realizes that omnipotence brings loneliness. The Thanos Quest #2
I understand why this story was not transferred to the screen:
- First, esoteric Jim Starlin is too complex to port to a YOBA blockbuster.
- Secondly, using femme fatale, much less elevating it to the rank of the main aspects of the universe, is too risky for Disney. They are already quite often accused of “propaganda of patriarchy” or simply using stereotypes. And Marvel Studios has already taken a hit with Jeremy Renner’s Black Widow slut-shaming. [By the way, maybe that’s why he’s not in Infinity War 😂 ]
Nevertheless, there is an important part of Stralin’s stories that should be transferred to the film – Thanos is felt in them as a character of myths.
In the 2005 series , Jason Aaron tried to modernize the image of the Mad Titan, hinting that Death was just a figment of his imagination.
Thanos’ father, a man of science, says that only he and his son are in the room. Thanos Rising #5
But even in this story, there are enough certain elements of myth-making:
- Thanos invents the concept of murder on Titan.
- Thanos is unique, he is not like the other inhabitants of Titan, and indeed the other inhabitants of the universe. All children from representatives of different races are similar to their mothers, but not to him.
- Death instructs him to kill all his offspring
Making a simple conclusion:
Thanos is natural when he feels like a character in myth.
Not for nothing, even the best scene in Infinity War is when Thanos sacrifices Gamora to get the Soul Stone.
If the motive of Thanos to destroy half the population in the film looks stupid, because they tried to justify it with rationality, but at the same time it contradicts modern science, then the moment with the vault looks, on the contrary, irrational, but this does not make it worse.
We are not told how the Soul Stone storage forces Thanos to play by his own rules, even though at this point he already has the power of several Infinity Stones. And even the Red Skull at this price looks like a guide to the afterlife, which only emphasizes the mysticism of what is happening.
Make Thanos a “necessary evil”
I read my first Thanos comic so long ago that it was not even with the help of the Internet, but with the help of the school library. It was the fifth issue of Marvel: The End still the same Starlin.
Despite the fact that it was almost the end of the story and I didn’t understand much from this issue, one moment won me over. In it, Thanos has already gained the power of the Heart of the Universe (another artifact of Omnipotence) and thanks to him he began to notice flaws in the fabric of the universe.
Thanos discovers Astral Cancer.
Ultimately, after various attempts at influence, Thanos realizes that the only way out is to destroy the universe and create anew.
Imagine if something like this happened in the “War of Infinity”:
Thanos gets all the Stones. Then a white screen or a few scenes of Thanos helping with the Stones in different corners of the Universe. But then, Thanos’ voice-over says that the frequent exposure to the Stones is destroying the fabric of the universe and that the best way out is to go back in time and cut the population in half.
Yes, Forbes journalists would still write that modern science has a different view on this, but still this approach is better than what we have now.
First of all, with such a concept, the writers would veto the excessive use of the Stones. And secondly, Thanos would have ended up at the same point, but he would have come to it not because he is a thoughtless fanatic of his ideas, but with the help of experience. And the audience would come along with it.
In general, the story can even be turned 180 degrees: let Thanos collect stones throughout the film, wanting to resurrect his civilization, but in the end not only would he not achieve his goal, but he would also be forced to commit even greater evil.
There would be a sort of rethinking of the myth about Pandora’s box and one more confirmation that since great power comes great responsibility.
Surprisingly, “Gurren Lagann” 10 years ago bypassed the rake, which came “War of Infinity”
Touch the untouchable. Break the unbreakable. Row! Row! Fight the power!
In the second half of the anime series Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann , the main conflict is very similar to that of Infinity War.
The Anti-Spiral race seeks to destroy spiral civilizations (including humanity), because the development of a spiral life form can lead the Universe to collapse.
At the same time, the antagonist is felt precisely as a “necessary evil”, because the viewer was smoothly led to this conflict. The protagonist in record time moved from life underground to the conquest of heaven. And the “spiral energy” itself generously rewards those who seek to break new and new barriers.